blackcat333_99 ([info]blackcat333_99) wrote,
@ 2009-05-04 10:17:00
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I got my Baby back! Woot! Rental car turned in, my baby is all fixed from the minor damage of that rear-ending from Mr. Distracted, and it's all good. I can't believe that's the first accident she's ever been in. Thank goodness it was minor, but it's still a bit of a statistical miracle. I've had her since '98, after all.

Been thinking quite a bit on one Sam Winchester, and I'm sorta circling back to something from earlier this season.

I've voiced a fair amount of criticism of Sam's choices about his lying, sneaking around, demon BFF and blood drinking. And I haven't really talked much about the positives that are still there inside him and what he's trying to accomplish. This doesn't mean that I hate Sam, but yes, I do think he's a lot more in the wrong than the right.

HOWEVER.

Another factor at play here, not just for me, I suspect, but possibly many out there in fandom, is the story of Sam we're seeing this year. And I'm realizing that what we seem to be getting is A Tale of Two Sams.

This is not a contradiction of his character, or a play of inconsistencies, but rather a play on perspectives. "It's all how you look at it", right?

Are You There, God... (4.02) ostensibly was about Dean. But it's also about Sam, and the blueprint for where his head's been at this year.

Ghost!Meg laid out both perspectives. Twisted and rabid though her attacks on the boys may have been, she was one of the "Rising of the Witnesses", and she did indeed bear witness on choices made and damages suffered.

You know how little siblings are, right? How they'll do anything for you. She was never the same after I disappeared. She just... she just got lost. And when my body was lying in the morgue. Beat up. Broken... Do you know what that did to her? She killed herself!


You saw how I suffered for months. I thought, you must have learned something. I thought I died for something.... But what you're doing with that demon, Ruby... How many innocent bodies has Ruby burned through for kicks? How many girls just like me? And you don't send her back to hell? You're a monster!

So there we have it. Sam No. 1. Broken and lost. Killing himself slowly because he just couldn't really recover from his brother's death.

And there's the other Sam. What he's doing with that demon, Ruby...

One is sympathetic. One not so much.

I think that's why I have such mixed feelings about the guy at present. Because both of these perspectives are true. He's damaged and lost. And yet he should know better. I wonder if the suicide or monster is going to win out. I'm betting on one thing being the X factor in the end -- Dean. Maybe there's still a door No. 3 to be taken. Because unlike Meg, Dean didn't stay dead.




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[info]eilonwy
2009-05-04 10:25 pm UTC (link)
I don't generally identify as a Sam!Girl or a Dean!Girl, but I did start watching the show for JP, and if forced to choose during season 1, 2 & 3, I'd've said Sam. I have, of course, quickly come to love Dean/JA as well, and this season, JA is just amazing, and Dean's journey has been more interesting to me. But that said, what I love about Sam's journey this season is how he's making all these wrong choices for all the right reasons. He didn't make these choices just for kicks, or because he even wants to, but because he sees no alternative. And Show has set it up that in a lot of ways there isn't an alternative. I have a hard time understanding Sam's intense desire for revenge given that Dean is back, but he was gone, and for four months, and Sam knew that not only was he gone, but he was being tortured, etc. and that, as far as he knew, if he'd listened to Blonde!Ruby sooner he'd have been able to save Dean, all of which certainly explains his early choices. And then there's the whole apocalypse and Sam's certainty that Dean is not up to it, that the whole thing rests on his shoulders. (Sorry, I'm not sure if I'm making any sense-- I'm kitten wrangling while writing this-- oh crap, just lost one under desk... okay, am back. Now, what was I saying?)

Anyway, I quite like your point-- I didn't much care for episode 4.02 (it wasn't bad, just wasn't one of the best this season and on rewatch was a bit ... eh) but your point about Sam is excellent. Frankly, I feel stupid for not putting together Meg's point about disappearing and its effect on her little sister with Dean's death and its effect on Sam.

I really think that there is a door number three, however, and not just because I'll be massively upset if there isn't. We've seen Dean's side of things and we've seen Sam's side of things. (I'm thinking particularly of "Jump the Shark" where every choice that each brother made was supportable, but at odds with each other.) We have not seen the brothers' side of things, we haven't seen them work together (on something big) in a long time. We know they don't trust each other, for various reasons. But I think they can only get to door number three by working together, "we're stronger as a family." I ... just don't think they're going to find door number three until season 5.

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[info]blackcat333_99
2009-05-04 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm betting on the "we're stronger as a family" theme eventually circling back around. It has to, for literary symmetry's sake, lol.

I agree that we're not going to get that rebuilding, however, until S5. Which I'm okay with, honestly. It took this year to rip them apart this badly, there's no way a quick fix would play true. As long as they are working on it I'll be a happy camper.

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[info]eilonwy
2009-05-04 11:48 pm UTC (link)
As long as they are working on it I'll be a happy camper.

Yes. This. I get that for good story telling they're going the right way, but waaannnhhh!! I want the boys together again, as a family, as brothers!!!

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[info]hearseeno
2009-05-06 01:01 am UTC (link)
Hey! An "Eilonwy"! What you doing over here, grrrrl? Where's Tarran, and Gurgi, and Fflewdder Flam? And Coll, how's the old boy? And, and... Gwyddion of course, (hubbahubba). And what was the dwarf's name? Oh! Doli, good ole Doli. :D

(Once a fangirl, always a fangirl, apparently. I got all nostalgic seeing your LJid.)

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[info]eilonwy
2009-05-06 03:23 am UTC (link)
Heee! :) S'funny-- it's been so long since I've read those books, and I've been on LJ as 'Eilonwy' for so long, that it takes me by surprise every time someone recognizes the name as a character and not just *me*! :D Hurrah for Lloyd Alexander!!

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[info]hearseeno
2009-05-06 12:57 am UTC (link)
And yet he should know better.

*snork* Can we make this, like, the Winchester Motto, or something? Or maybe a bumpersticker? Or, well, fridge magnets that stick to skin? Cuz all 3 could have benefited from having this slapped on their foreheads on occasion. XD

Broken and lost.

You know, when you said this, I started thinking about Ava and how just not quite sane she was by then end. It's like over time, something broke inside her. And now that you talk about Sam in this way, I'm starting to see the parallels between Sam and Ava, like he just can't keep doing this anymore. He can't keep letting members of his family die for him. He can't let Dean put himself in the line of fire to protect him anymore. It has to stop, and it doesn't matter how it stops anymore. It just has to be over.

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[info]blackcat333_99
2009-05-06 01:10 am UTC (link)
I know -- that should be their nex tattoo -- "We know better"

Hee!

Yes, the Ava story wasn't just about wrapping up the PsyKids story in a neat bow -- she was most definitely meant to be a cautionary tale. At first she did what she did out of necessity. Then she came to like it. Stopped being the girl she was and became something else. Jake was the "light-switched into evil" example, Ava was the erosion of constant pressure, temptations and finally caving/breaking, all supposedly in the name of survival. Wanting to just end the nightmare she found herself trapped in.

Nice call-back for that additional reminder/tie-in for Sam's headspace. Thanks!

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