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I'm not sure what he did with Adam WAS wrong, honestly. The vast majority of people will never encounter the supernatural threats that the Winchesters are so familiar with, and they will be happier not knowing that those threats exist. Why embrace the darkness when it might never find you? Enjoy your life. Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise.
I mostly agree with this -- with the caveate that Adam did have an unwitting connection to the supernatural that most other "normal" people don't have because John was his father, and John has made a lot of enemies over the years. Adam certainly had the happier life by far, and he certainly was better off not being drafted into the hunter life, but I think he might have had a longer life if John had given him a little bit more info -- not destroying his innocence entirely, but just making him more aware. A fine line, to be sure, and it's one that John has proved himself not particularly capable of managing. Given his history of "all or nothing"/"in or out" with the family/hunting business, it's understandable that by keeping Adam out, he would keep him out all the way. I disagree with his choice, and at the very least think that Sam and Dean should have known about his existence -- he was THEIR brother too, not just John's son. But... spilled milk, all that jazz.
And his dealings with Adam were such a slap in the face to Dean, I think, because of exactly the point you made: that John had been too rigid with them, he could have raised them as hunters and still given them a little more "normal" in the process. Whether Adam got more as a lesson learned by John in losing a rebellious Sam, or whether it simply was about other psychologic reasonings in play for him -- he could have done better by Sam and Dean. And Dean's finally realizing that and acknowledging it, instead of falling back on the "he did the best he could with us" mantra of blanket forgiveness he's voiced in the past.
I think John loved all of his boys, Sam and Dean probably the most, simply because of time and shared family unit history. But they still ended up getting the short stick on the "father" end of John's person.
It's fascinating -- as much as there are some things revealed that have some people screaming, it's certainly giving us a lot to ponder about all of the Winchesters -- even the silent ghost of Mary. Thanks for popping over -- I'm always game for discussion. :)
I mostly agree with this -- with the caveate that Adam did have an unwitting connection to the supernatural that most other "normal" people don't have because John was his father, and John has made a lot of enemies over the years. Adam certainly had the happier life by far, and he certainly was better off not being drafted into the hunter life, but I think he might have had a longer life if John had given him a little bit more info -- not destroying his innocence entirely, but just making him more aware. A fine line, to be sure, and it's one that John has proved himself not particularly capable of managing. Given his history of "all or nothing"/"in or out" with the family/hunting business, it's understandable that by keeping Adam out, he would keep him out all the way. I disagree with his choice, and at the very least think that Sam and Dean should have known about his existence -- he was THEIR brother too, not just John's son. But... spilled milk, all that jazz.
And his dealings with Adam were such a slap in the face to Dean, I think, because of exactly the point you made: that John had been too rigid with them, he could have raised them as hunters and still given them a little more "normal" in the process. Whether Adam got more as a lesson learned by John in losing a rebellious Sam, or whether it simply was about other psychologic reasonings in play for him -- he could have done better by Sam and Dean. And Dean's finally realizing that and acknowledging it, instead of falling back on the "he did the best he could with us" mantra of blanket forgiveness he's voiced in the past.
I think John loved all of his boys, Sam and Dean probably the most, simply because of time and shared family unit history. But they still ended up getting the short stick on the "father" end of John's person.
It's fascinating -- as much as there are some things revealed that have some people screaming, it's certainly giving us a lot to ponder about all of the Winchesters -- even the silent ghost of Mary. Thanks for popping over -- I'm always game for discussion. :)